4WebHelp
 FAQ  •  Search  •  User Groups  •  Forum Admins  •  Smilies List  •  Statistics  •  Rules   •  Login   •  Register
Toggle Navigation Menu

 Time to replace Perl with PHP?
Post New TopicReply to Topic
View Previous Topic Print this topic View Next Topic
Author Message
Daniel
Team Member



Joined: 06 Jan 2002
Posts: 2564

PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2002 6:55 pm (21 years, 4 months ago) Reply with QuoteBack to Top

Is it time to replace Perl with PHP? Wink

http://www.phpbuilder.com/columns/jayesh20021111.php3 wrote:
Introduction

With the introduction of version 4.2, PHP has started supporting a new SAPI (Server Application Programming Interface) called CLI (Command Line Interface). This facility was introduced to help developers create small shell applications (scripts) with PHP. So, now you can kiss Perl goodbye forever.

The CLI SAPI was released for the first time with PHP 4.2.0, but was still experimental back then and had to be explicitly enabled with --enable-cli when running ./configure. With PHP 4.3.0 the CLI SAPI will no longer be experimental and therefore will always be built and installed as the php (called php.exe on Windows) binary.


--> http://www.phpbuilder.com/columns/jayesh20021111.php3

________________________________
Image
OfflineView User's ProfileFind all posts by DanielSend Personal Message
Justin
4WebHelp Addict
4WebHelp Addict


Joined: 07 Jan 2002
Posts: 1060

PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2002 7:15 pm (21 years, 4 months ago) Reply with QuoteBack to Top

I hate Perl, and like PHP, so yeah.
OfflineView User's ProfileFind all posts by JustinSend Personal MessageSend email
adam
Forum Moderator & Developer



Joined: 26 Jul 2002
Posts: 704
Location: UK

PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2002 10:10 pm (21 years, 4 months ago) Reply with QuoteBack to Top

yeah! down with perl! Very Happy

if people stopped using it, that'd mean I wouldn't have to try and learn it...

________________________________
It's turtles all the way down...
OfflineView User's ProfileFind all posts by adamSend Personal MessageVisit Poster's Website
Iyonix
WebHelper
WebHelper


Joined: 12 Nov 2002
Posts: 82
Location: Yarm, England

PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2002 10:51 pm (21 years, 4 months ago) Reply with QuoteBack to Top

What is really needed is a Perl <-- --> PHP convertor.
This sort of program would be a goldon app Twisted Evil
OfflineView User's ProfileFind all posts by IyonixSend Personal Message
adam
Forum Moderator & Developer



Joined: 26 Jul 2002
Posts: 704
Location: UK

PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2002 10:59 pm (21 years, 4 months ago) Reply with QuoteBack to Top

yeah, that'd be good

________________________________
It's turtles all the way down...
OfflineView User's ProfileFind all posts by adamSend Personal MessageVisit Poster's Website
jayant
Team Member



Joined: 07 Jan 2002
Posts: 262
Location: New Delhi, India

PostPosted: Sat Dec 07, 2002 6:23 am (21 years, 4 months ago) Reply with QuoteBack to Top

I had posted for that a few months ago, but didnt get any response Sad

________________________________
Jayant Kumar
Member of the 4WebHelp Team
Nibble Guru - Computing Queries Demystified
GZip/ Page Compression Test
OfflineView User's ProfileFind all posts by jayantSend Personal MessageVisit Poster's WebsiteYahoo MessengerMSN Messenger
Iyonix
WebHelper
WebHelper


Joined: 12 Nov 2002
Posts: 82
Location: Yarm, England

PostPosted: Sat Dec 07, 2002 10:23 am (21 years, 4 months ago) Reply with QuoteBack to Top

I think you would have to be a PHP and Perl god to be able to write one. Sad
OfflineView User's ProfileFind all posts by IyonixSend Personal Message
jayant
Team Member



Joined: 07 Jan 2002
Posts: 262
Location: New Delhi, India

PostPosted: Sat Dec 07, 2002 12:17 pm (21 years, 4 months ago) Reply with QuoteBack to Top

The main problem is in Perl no standards are defined / followed. In PHP we have Pear. In Perl we also have lots and lots of obfuscated coding done, which makes the things even more difficult.

________________________________
Jayant Kumar
Member of the 4WebHelp Team
Nibble Guru - Computing Queries Demystified
GZip/ Page Compression Test
OfflineView User's ProfileFind all posts by jayantSend Personal MessageVisit Poster's WebsiteYahoo MessengerMSN Messenger
Daniel
Team Member



Joined: 06 Jan 2002
Posts: 2564

PostPosted: Sat Dec 07, 2002 12:19 pm (21 years, 4 months ago) Reply with QuoteBack to Top

From what I have heard, the problem with Perl is that there are way too many ways to do one thing, which means that everyone does it the way they want Smile

________________________________
Image
OfflineView User's ProfileFind all posts by DanielSend Personal Message
Jos
Ex Team Member



Joined: 08 Jan 2002
Posts: 36
Location: The Netherlands

PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2002 7:09 am (21 years, 4 months ago) Reply with QuoteBack to Top

Daniel wrote:
From what I have heard, the problem with Perl is that there are way too many ways to do one thing, which means that everyone does it the way they want :)


Ok, but our name is 4WEBHELP and you go renamed it to 4PHPHELP ????

Don't tell me that nobody is using Perl anymore in this world. All kind of programming we've to give support. Not only PHP but also Perl/Javascript/ASP/

You know that PHP is the same as Perl but it's more simple, so everybody can work with this. Still when you like to remove this from our Forum then remove more en make one with the name
Other Scripting Support ---> Perl, JavaScript, ASP

________________________________
Jos
** Team Member ** http://www.josvanras.com **
OfflineView User's ProfileFind all posts by JosSend Personal MessageVisit Poster's Website
Daniel
Team Member



Joined: 06 Jan 2002
Posts: 2564

PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2002 7:19 am (21 years, 4 months ago) Reply with QuoteBack to Top

I never said we should stop supporting Perl or remove its forum. I'm just trying to create some discussion on the disadvantages/advantages of Perl vs. PHP.

________________________________
Image
OfflineView User's ProfileFind all posts by DanielSend Personal Message
Hertzsprung
WebHelper
WebHelper


Joined: 30 Jul 2002
Posts: 56
Location: UK

PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2003 1:02 pm (21 years, 3 months ago) Reply with QuoteBack to Top

I was thinking about this problem of language incompatibility recently. I was thinking that you could define a new language that is a dialect of XML. Then use XSLT to transform your program into any language you liked. Only problem being, this language would have to be a subset of all languages, making most tasks impossible Neutral. Still, a nice use for XML, I thought Smile
OfflineView User's ProfileFind all posts by HertzsprungSend Personal MessageVisit Poster's Website
Display posts from previous:      
Post New TopicReply to Topic
View Previous Topic Print this topic View Next Topic


 Jump to:   




You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.


Page generation time: 0.30067 seconds :: 18 queries executed :: All Times are GMT
Powered by phpBB 2.0 © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group :: Based on an FI Theme